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Forcing the Will: Aluren
Posted on July 30, 2010 by KillerOwen
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Very legit Deck.
Sadly it’s kinda boring to watch you go off
The rest was interesting. Looking forward to that Baneslayer deck.
Love your Legacy videos.
Just FYI, I think you made a couple of mistakes, though:
Against the Bant deck: You play your only fetchland instead of Tropical Island so you can’t shuffle after Brainstorm.
You used Bone Shredder‘s ability on Vendilion Clique for no apparent reason. (Shredder is a 1/1 flier so it trades with Clique in combat)
Against Argothian Enchantress, I would have Force of Will‘d the Argothian, but it didn’t matter anyway since you won before it got out of hand. I think it’s debatable whether you should save FoW for his Solitary Confinement or not, but if he doesn’t have his draw engine going, then he can’t keep Confinement up.
You can use Cabal Therapy to discard Progenitus, which gets shuffled back into your library so you can Natural Order it out. You probably could’ve won round 1 game 2 like that.
what do you think is the best deck in the format in your opinion not based on results?
yo what sport u play?
Great article and I love the videos. Just try to keep the deck techs under 10 minutes or they start to kind of drag on.
I agree with blue. I love these articles. Bring on countertop! You can also do dredge; I know how much you’d love that lol.
Can you explain what baseruption is, I’ve never heard of that deck and the name is cool!
Round 1 g2, when you kill the clique with shredder, I agree with roon that you can block clique with shredder, however I also think that a better play might be to kill the knight while it’s tapped, then play the harpy after the shredder and return the shredder, then you can block the clique and trade with it or before damage bounce the harpy and you can eventually wipe out his board like that.
Fun videos to watch, legacy has awesome combo decks.
@ eXXa: I will have the Baneslayer deck up as soon as I get some Angels. I’ve been waiting for the m11 release so they will be cheap. I also need some practice with the deck before I jump in an event. I do agree watching people combo off can be very boring, but compared to paper mtgo isn’t nearly as bad especially with all the shuffling.
@ roon: I agree I played the shredder way wrong. I also meant to counter the Enchantress, but after passing priority I decided it wasn’t so bad since I could still counter Confinement if needed.
@ geodishy: I didn’t even think of that! The deck seems so much better now that I have came to realize that option. I can’t believe I overlooked that it seems so obvious now.
@ Giovanni: I don’t believe that there is just one best deck since every deck has a deck it loses to more than it wins. Stephen Menendian a Legacy/Vintage writer composed a graph of decks that shows what decks win against or lose against, but I’d have to dig to find it. Basically it was showing you need to pick a deck based on what you predict will be in the tournament.
@ Awesome757: I play rugby for UVU.
@ bluedragon123: I agree about the decktechs I’ll try to cut them down. Thanks for the support bud!
@ NecroSavant543: I have the Countertop videos next, but you might be waiting some time for Dredge since you know how much I love Dredge!
@ Aznsilly: Here is a forum topic that posts a bit of information on Baseruption it look s a bit outdated, but the information is still useful http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?6504-Deck-Baseruption-%28aYb-Aggro-Control%29 . You are correct I played that totally wrong I don’t even recall what I was thinking at the time, but I sure could have played it better.
Thanks for all the input guys it really helps me out as a player/writer, and I have you guys to thanks for improving my skill. I hope I can continue to provide useful information with even greater skill as I continue on with my articles.
Thanks for the link, it was very detailed. I have seen the deck before, but never knew it by that name!
Thanks a lot for these vids, they are very informative and fun to watch
I didn’t have the chance to watch them earlier but I’m glad I got to now. You probably won’t read this anymore, but i still wanted to ask: Why do you take as long as possible to combo off?
I’m seriously wondering. You mentioned in the first vid I think that you’re a team player and want to give them all a chance and stuff, but I just find it hard to believe that’s really the reason you take another ~1 minute combo’ing off. What am I missing? I mean recruiting all 3 other recruiters, returning dream stalker with cavern harpy instead of returning parasitic strix, stuff like that.
Again, not saying I would do better or that you made a mistake. I’m just wondering why you would go about it the long way, even against tapped out opponents not playing blue.
@ Aznsilly: You’re very welcome. I figured you would have seen the deck before, but a lot of people just don’t know the name of it.
@ Zage: I am glad you like the videos :D! I will admit I made the mistake of bouncing the Stalker with the Harpy instead of the Strix. Sometimes when I get in combo mode I just click like a mad man, but besides that I was simply taking the long route unintentionally. As for getting all the Recruiters it allows me to have the option to bounce another Recruiter if my opponent is able to kill one of them off. This is just habit and is not always necessary,but I do it just be to cautions. Sometimes spending the extra minute to do something can save you, but a lot of the times it’s not needed. I would advise going the long route in most cases unless you are running low on time. So in summary more Recruiters are better in my opinion, and I played the Harpy, Stalker, and Strix wrong in that game.
Round one game two the aluren match you could have just cabal therapied progenitus out of your hand then cast natural order.