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Forcing the Will: Zoo
Posted on July 16, 2010 by KillerOwen
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Dude, change your smoke alarm battery. It’s been over a month. How have you not gone crazy? Love the vids.
same exact situation happend to me like a year ago the exactly the same story only its not my cousin lol
I just barley changed the batteries this morning just for you guys! Seriously though I have had them like that for who knows how long I don’t even notice it anymore. Glad you guys love the videos I’ll do my best to keep them coming.
I wonder what the round 1 opponent was doing…what a bad deck in any format.
Stuff about plays in round 1:
In game 1 I would play the goyf vs the jitte, it comes out as a 2/3, and he has colorless mana at the moment. I mean, that’s not too relevant, but it might mean he cant remove your creature anyway. if he does however, you just got time walked on turns 2, 3, and 4 essentially (1 damage in 3 turns) playing an equipment and trying to play it on a creature only to get blown out by removal. if he kills your lavamancer or first goyf, it pumps your 2nd goyf.
In game 2, why would you want to chain lightning the 1/1 when he is tapped out and you can attack with a 3/3 which will get 2 jitte counters after combat? if he blocks he saves 3 life but you have enough jitte counters to just kill the soulstoke. you can then save the 1 red mana to play a kird ape and save a chain lightning for either the soulstoke or his face.
round 2:
game 1, sylvan library is pretty sick and improves his chances of drawing into a trick, and he had left 1 mana up, so he might have had something. I would have used the mystic to get either sword of fire and ice, or light and shadow (to keep having creatures to chump him and still gain life). in this case I would probably go for the sword of light and shadow (pro path, lightning helix), leaving 1 mana up to activate 1 pridemage to kill the library before he can use it to look at 3 cards instead of 1. also even after you play the way you do, I would have blocked with a mystic + a pridemage, and leave one back. if he has the removal, he blows you out. if he doesnt, you lose 3 life and have a creature on the swingback for jitte. i dunno, it was a pretty tough spot either way.
game 2, if your opponent is playing the P2P version of zoo, you should be getting a few basics with your fetches instead of so many nonbasics. once you have the taiga in your opening hand, you dont need to get another one imo. also, keeping the 5 lander is pretty loose if you only have a lavamancer and a goyf you know will come out as a 1/2, meaning he dies to all the removal. also, you said you boarded out fireblast, but it can reliably kill almost all his creatures and it can get rid of 2 nonbasics at instant speed vs a price to progress.
Sorry about splitting the posts, when I watch the videos it makes me unable to type more in the chat box sometimes…
anyhow, round 3:
game 1, you said you will throw down a tarmogoyf, and at the same time don’t want him to play a wasteland to get rid of your taiga. I’m not sure of the relationship between those two sentences, if there was one since your taiga was already in play and you cant stop a wasteland with any of your cards. the point where you conceded, i mean that game was out of reach for you anyway, however, you pridemaged at the wrong time, if you do it before the witness is removed, he will be able to choose the slide as a target when the witness comes back. you would ideally want to wait until he is tapped out and has resolved the triggers already. since he has an unearth in hand though, you’d have to take 4 from witness every turn + deal with his hand full of cards or kill a witness and then he can unearth it for the slide.
well it seems like a tough matchup
round 4:
it was fine for the most part since he wasnt doing anything and had no cards in hand
I don’t play legacy at all, just watch it sometimes…so let me know if you think I am wrong about something!
^Thats a pretty beefy comment right thur.
And Im glad you changed your smoke alarm battery, I keep thinking its mine for some reason and I go and check it…
Anyways, good deck and some cool vids, nice
Stick your tongue on said battery and tape that please!
The format is small enough that personal choices have an undue influence on the apparent meta-game. Until recently, dark bant meant me. Similarly, for whatever reason nobody but Penguin has played Rec-Sur since shortly after survival was released, though I think it is one of the defining decks of the format.
It makes for interesting meta-gaming, but it also weakens the clarity that an article like this can shed as compared to a format with a much denser, more reliable data-set such as standard.
Why do u consider that list of Zoo better then the other lists that been around around for awhile and had a lot of success?
@ Aznsilly: Jitte is almost always the best choice especially while facing other aggro decks. The reason I didn’t grab sword of Light and Shadow was that I didn’t have enough mana to cast it and equip it, and my creature would have been killed either way so it didn’t make any difference in the end.
@ Trav: I might have to do that just for you!
@ CSeraph: The format is switching around so much and each week there is almost a new deck that comes back and surprises folks. It’s a really tough format to prepare for especially for those that don’t really know the format. I think MTGO Legacy is going to shape paper Legacy a lot, and even more so when we get all the missing cards.
@: Giovanni: I like the ability to stop Landstill maindeck vs the sideboard, but I just noticed I wasn’t having much success with the older builds. I decided to try this build, and most of the time I can overcome the other builds. I’m not much for Zoo in the first place, but being able to have bigger dudes on the field a turn later is just better IMO since you can then stall the other versions. I also noticed the PoP was often a dead card in my hand since it would kill us. I would need to do more testing, but I don’t have a desire to play Zoo since I almost never lose to that deck.