Limited Resources: MTGO Cube Draft #2

Posted on July 13, 2012 by Limited Resources

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  1. It was really annoying to see you pass the Diabolic Servitude in reanimator.

  2. R3G1, put the jitte back on top, it gives you alot more time than gaining 7 life, no?

  3. So many mistakes with your Tangle Wire!!!

    So, you want to put the Genesis ability on last, because you can use the mana from the lands you are going to tap in order to use it.

    Also, you put the Creakwood Liege ability on last, because you can tap it as one of your creatures, which is fine since it has summoning sickness.

    Those were round one… we’ll see what you do later.

  4. Agree with prehemencie. Getting Diabolic Servitude in would be exactly what you talked about later. Bringing stuff from your graveyard back. And as long as the enchantment survives, you can even use it again. Doesn’t get better than that.

    Also, you should’ve read Tormod’s Crypt :P It works sooo nice with Living Death.
    Empty their graveyard for free, then get all your creatures back from the grave while he gets nothing.

    So there was potential for more awesome, but I love cube and you did well, considered the time pressure ;)

  5. @prehemencie Ha, if I had known what the card did I clearly would have taken it :P

    @Dirhyn It makes him use up some mana and saves 1 life so ya that would have been better, also denies him his next draw. Thanks!

    @oray I never used Genesis so that didn’t matter, but ya the token being tapped would have been slightly better than the land I wasn’t using unless I was intending to block. I was pretty happy that I just didn’t mess up the tanglewire stacking stuff tbh lol

  6. @EdwardGein Ya, I would have taken that one if I knew the card for sure. Ya I can see that interaction with Crypt and Living Death but that isn’t worth a card slot to me in the deck. You say “for free” I say “at the very relevant and precious cost of a card slot” :)

    The time thing is a big deal in the draft portion as reading cards gets too cumbersome pretty often along with talking about them and thinking at the same time :( Thanks for watching!

  7. Yeah, Tangle Wire is a pretty complicate card to use in the first place. But if you use it right, it is just so good, as evidenced here.

    Genesis is pretty mediocre, imo, since you never really have time to play 2G for a Raise Dead, even if it is free. I did like your deck a lot :)

  8. I rarely actually stop watching a vid because of a mistake, this is the first time in months. Passing diabolic servitude because “its too much to read” is ridiculous. Since you obviously have no clue about any cards older than the last couple years, before you start a recording maybe you should look through the set list and check out the cards you dont know.

    This video gets an F

  9. I enjoyed these videos! It is very unrealistic to expect anyone to play perfectly and the format itself is a bit overwhelming. I learned quite a bit and I know my next attempt at the cube will go better because of it.

  10. dont pass all that ramp, way too high curve. esp cultivate just what u needed there.
    also M1G1 GO FOR IT! survival 4 times -> living death. youre like a guy in a ferari checking out the stereo…

  12. 420gabriel,

    this man has minimal eperiance with older Magic, he is unawere of what some cards do… and yet, he piloted his cube deck to the finals of a top 8… if you watch his other videos, you’ll see he is a very consistnet winner. There is a lot of value in watching this video because, he is still full of useful advice and showcases some very good plays.

    Deciding not to watch the video based on the notion that if a player is not familiar with all the cards he can’t be a good player (and teacher!) is not a good idea.

  13. hey marshall, sweet draft. in round 3 game 2 when you cast primal command putting sword back on top and search for a creature, you should use the other mode to make him shuffle his graveyard into his library so it shuffles the sword back into his deck. it’s something people miss about primal command a lot, 5 mana shuffle target non-creature permanent into deck.

  14. or i guess if you were trying to set up living death with terastodon or primus to destroy the sword i can see that line too. using the command to search up one of them to pitch for a next turn living death.

  15. R2G2 – Why did you kill your own Primeval instead of a goblin token with the Bone Shredder. It’s just non-artifact, non-black creature. Terror stick.

  16. @everyone Geez chill out, he only had 10 seconds to read the card while making a video and he had never seen the card before. The card has like 3 paragraphs worth of text. Cut him some slack.

  17. Yeah, it’s pretty ridiculous to be jumping on Marshall’s back because he didn’t know what Diabolic Servitude does. I own the card, and I didn’t realize what it actually does until a couple years back. Figuring it out in ten seconds during a draft is just impossible.

  18. How is everyone upset about the Servitude and no one saying anything about passing all the useful lands in pack 2? Marshall, you had 2 opportunities to grab Creeping Tarpit and missed it: it’s better than Sheoldred… Bayou is better than Ravages (that was super random) and Tropical Island is better than Chameleon Colossus.

    Why? It’s because you ended up with 34 playables. They cant all make your deck… so instead of drafting 10 cards that you CANT play, grab some lands that are sure to make your deck. The upside to doing that is that you will also be able to play your spells when you want to.

    Also, there is so much fat in the cube. Does it matter which giant bomb you win with? Not really, they all crush when they connect. You cant play them all so just grab the ones that get passed to you. Take lands higher, you will always play them and they will make your deck infinitely more consistent.

  19. As an aside from all of the bickering here(!); Marshall, i think in round 1 game 2 or 3 it seemed like you didn’t realize nezumi graverobber can target stuff in your own graveyard. There’s a bit where you were saying he couldn’t crack his fetch because then you could flip the graverobber, but you had your own fetch you could have cracked!

    I think you only missed 2 damage this way, but it’s worth noting for the future.

    Also, I enjoyed the videos.

    P.S. @oraymw, I don’t think the thing you’re saying with genesis and tangle wire works, as tangle wire specifies that you can only tap untapped permanents to feed it’s wiry hunger. Either that, or i’ve misunderstood what you’re suggesting.

  21. Thanks for doing the weekly videos. Playing a different type of deck each video makes them more interesting to watch then always forcing a mono-red cube deck. Same thing applies for regular limited drafts. Looking forward to watching M13 drafts after listening to the set reviews. Keep up the great work.

  22. Nezumi Graverobber CANNOT target stuff in your own graveyard. It would be much better if it could, obviously.

  23. @420gabriel This comment gets a C-

    @amlatin Hey thanks man, learning this stuff on the fly is pretty rough it turns out. But also fun :)

    @chris Ha, I like the analogy :)

    @WHYDID Because I didn’t know what it did and didn’t have the bandwidth to figure it out. You will be happy to know that I now understand the card and wouldn’t pass it in this position :)

    @carrotus Thanks man, appreciate the words. I had a lot of fun doing the draft, and have done many since :)

    @bryan I can’t remember if I considered that or not, but it might have been the right play! Not having any experience with Primal Command made it hard to really know exactly what to do with it, but I’m glad I drafted it as I need to figure these things out :)

    @anonymous – I don’t remember doing that, but I’ll try to go back and check. Maybe I just didn’t see it? Seems like a strange play for me to make?

    @rdrouyn – Thanks dude, that’s what I was thinking! It is kind of comical when you look at that card on modo too, with all that text lol

    @oray – Thankfully I now know the card well and have drafted it TWICE since this one, so a valuable lesson was learned here in these comments :D

    @josh – Ya I realize the lands are good, but I was more concerned with getting creatures as my actual creature count was very low. Survival and Fauna Shaman are pretty crappy if you don’t have enough guys to pitch to them.

    @stealthbadger – Read graverobber again ;) I think you are right about the tapped part on Tagle Wire though.

    @Tom3mtg – Thanks Tom, I really try to push myself in cube to draft different archetypes as often as possible. It’s really tempting not to do this, but I figure I’ll never get really good at it if I can’t even see the key cards coming around for different decks.

    @xyx – Confirmo!

  24. You should really take Josh his advise to heart, I was going to say the exact same thing, you always end up with enough playables in cube, getting a good manabase is more important, and except for bombs you should take lands very highly. I generally pick around 4-5 lands in the first booster. Cubing (with good cube drafters) is a lot more like constructed than regular limited, people have very streamlined decks and stumbling for a bit can cost you the game. I don’t disagree with a lot of picks but almost every pick where you were deciding between taking a land or taking another spell you should have taken the land. You will get enough creatures or good cards, fixing is rare, even more so on the modo cube. I liked your deck but you could have gotten a deck with 95% of the power level you got here with a manabase that would have been much, much better making your deck much better as well.

  25. Just felt like chiming in and saying that recently I cubed in MODO, and stared down at a first with Survival of the Fittest in it – and, taking inspiration from this video, first picked it and won the draft (even despite forgetting that certain Eldrazi shuffle themselves and the graveyard to your deck instead of just remaining dead – making them not the bestt reanimator targets ever :P).

    I never understood how the deck works before watching these videos but now I feel that I know how the deck ticks, and so this is the first time that I got to so directly apply something I learned in MTGOacademy. that’s really cool.

  27. please please please please more cube games and no more shitty AVR.

    Also, why are the episodes coming out so irregularly nowadays?

  29. Great Videos, Marsh. You piloted what turned out to be a pretty difficult deck very well, with only a few loose plays, mainly due to unfamiliarity with the interactions.
    You missed a couple things R1, but whateves,
    You missed a sweet play, R2G2, where you could have cast Manikin in response to FoF before he could load up his hand with anything from the Fact or Fiction. Does not seem like a big deal because it didn’t end up mattering, but it was an option.

    Great Job, Again, This is probably the hardest draft format ever. Maybe the next time cube comes up, you and Loucks could do a draft like you and Ryan used to? I think that would be interesting. A good learning experience for everyone.