Limited Resources: New MTGO Cube Draft #2

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  1. Marshall Match 1 game 2 was great! Round 2 game 2 you should have brought in your Savannah and dropped a plains but it didn’t matter anyway! great deck love watching and playing cube!!!

  2. Sad to see you play cube. I think they should be boycotted due to the awful prize structure

  3. P1P1 – this is a windmill slam treachery not close. only cards you need to consider over it is Jace TMS, Jitte, Upheavel and maybe a sword.
    P1P12 (maybe 13) – angel is better, this way you can get tooth and nail and still go black for ramp\reanimator.
    P1P? – Beast within is worse, your deck can’t really deal with the 3\3. The monk is better.

    Great videos, thanks.

  4. R3G2 you could return sundering titan to your hand and blow his 3 lands + plow under other 2
    Just saying ;-)

  5. Gifts could be awesome in this build. You are able to find two of three of your big dudes, and with two regrowth efects you are also able to find any card in you deck if need be.

  6. Loved the video, commentary, and the close out play of x3 bounce your lands. Sweet deck!

  7. Great to see you getting down and dirty with an unfair deck! Green ramp is probably one of the most powerful archetypes in the cube, and I have found it’s often easy to pick up. As you saw yourself, there are usually a ton of redundant pieces for it floating around the draft, and you can always pick up some giant fat spell

    Good cards for the deck that you didn’t hit this time would be terrastodon, ulamog, genesis wave, fireball or woodfall primus. It’s also nice to have a bit of incidental life gain on a relatively cheap body for searching up with either primal command or green sun’s zenith – something like kitchen finks or obstinate baloth would do that job well.

    Finally, you usually want something like an acidic slime to pull in a tight spot. You often benefit from having versatility in your creatures.

    Keep doing a great job with the lr show and these vids

  8. I’m glad i didn’ play cube this time; I choose not to play because they banned winnings (congratz on the cube tix, you still need to pay to play though). I’m even more happy not playing it after seeing these vids : spending 30 minutes of drafting and deckbuilding then to lose in 5 turns against an insane reanimator- or rampdeck… not my idea of fun !

  9. MTGO Cube is the total rip-off, please Marshall don’t support that kind of money grabbing.

  10. All you idiots using these videos as an excuse to air out your bloated, injured sense of entitlement over how Cube is a huge ripoff, need to take your grievances elsewhere.

    I mean, holy crap, you are complaining that a highly specialized format of Magic: The Gathering does not have a reasonably lucrative prize payout? Can you not hear how silly you sound? Magic is one of the absolute biggest money sinks of a game ever made, and you’d have to be nuts to complain about such a small aspect of it being “too expensive” to be “worth it” and that it needs to be boycotted.

    Complaining about Cube prize structure is like complaining about your Ferrari using up too much gas when you take it down to the track for amateur race night. Well no shit. It’s a luxury activity. It’s for fun. You are paying for the fun, not the efficiency.

    If you don’t like, you can very easily proxy up your own cube and play with friends. Or play on Cockatrice. Or just don’t play!

    Alternatively, you can all get over your surprise that Wizards of the Coast is a business that exists to make profits, and being profitable means offering a service or product people are willing to pay for. They aren’t a charity, they aren’t a government funded service, they exist to take your money from you. Either you are alright with that as a complete, overall concept, or you aren’t.

    Either way, please shut up. Marshall is providing these at HIS own discretionary expense for YOUR entertainment, so stop clogging up the comments, devaluing the time and effort he puts in to making these, and just bugger off. I like his videos, and I want him to keep doing them, and for him not to feel like the bulk of his audience is composed of mewling brats.

  11. That deck was just sweet. Super fun to watch draft and play. I would have loved to see pick 1 Treachery, but dedicating to ramp early on clearly payed off. Thanks for the great videos, as always.

    Oh, and thanks Mr_Chupon. Somebody needed to say it.

  12. Hey Marshall,

    i would have liked to see you bounce your own sundering titan with riftwing and then plow under him, last game. would have left him with 0 lands. maybe not the best play but seemed like most funsies. :)

    keep it up

  13. In fairness, all MTGO is a total rip-off, and we all support it anyway, even though we know it…

  14. It is a pay-as-you-go video game. It’s following the same model as most online games now. What would be something that wasn’t a rip-off?

  15. I concur with everything Mr_Chupon says. Let’s keep the discussion on-topic.

    Marshall, it was good to see you outside of your comfort zone. Perhaps drafting a hardcore control deck would be a good test of your skills as a limited player? For example, a blue/red counter burn deck or a heavy blue control with a lot of counters. Playing those archetypes in cube has taught me a lot about control strategies in general, and I think it would be good for you. Plus, it’s really fun!

  16. I was yelling “THERE’S A SAVANNAH IN YOUR SIDEBOARD!” the entire time you were boarding in Round 2…

  17. I had to look away a few times when I watched this. My friend watching my reaction to my laptop asked what I was watching and I said “Carnage…just carnage” This video was so much fun, each game was filled with such gigantic moves that it felt like your poor opponents never had chance. This was quality content.

    Thanks Marshall for the good times.

  18. Great vids, the ramp deck is still silly in the new cube I see, then :-)

    You did miss a trick or two Match 3, not least that you can use Yavimaya Hollow to breach Kira’s defences and steal her with Sower

  19. Wow… So that was THE ramp deck? Titan, Rofellos, Dynamo/Monolith, Boombooms… Pretty sweet. Yeah, I would probably also pick the Treachery p1p1 but if you win the draft it somehow gets a little bit justified, especially since you ended up with such a consistent deck. Sweet one!

  20. Re: Treachery P1P1, I have picked Treachery a hundred times already in this cube and it’s good, but kind of boring. I vowed to do broken things before the video started and starting with a Treachery isn’t really going down that path in my mind. Dynamo is way more fun :)

  21. Absurd deck, loved it. I feel like it was begging for an eldrazi or a dumb X spell for your Channel, but that didn’t prevent it from mopping your opponents. Nice!

  22. Anonymous says:
    October 5, 2012 at 3:01 AM

    shut off after beast within over noble and stunted

    I really cannot understand this output. Do you stop watching movies because the main character does something stupid (in your opinion!)? Do you leave a concert if the band plays a song you dont expecially love? Wow…

    That aside, nice callout from Mr_Chupon and damn, that is a nice draft. From totally fair to totally broken in just one week, congratulations. Loved it.

  23. Ramp is the one archetype that WOTC needs to nerf for its cube. Its not that its overpowered, its just boring to play/play against and way too easy to draft. Non-interactive decks aren’t fun.

    At least storm is hard to draft/play. And reanimator at least needs to be relatively open.

  24. Shut it Chupon,
    at least think first before you wirte something stupid.
    I think everybody is fine if the chances are low goin infinite in a draft but the fact, that you basically cannot go infinite in cube, is just a huge pile of crap and Swiss Cube feels really really terrible in the prize payout. It’s like they don’t want new playersin cube…

  25. Chupon, I 100% agree with what you said. Organizing a cube is something I would ordineraly never be able to do and MODO allows me to play if for a rather small price – I am good enough to only need 2 tix to enter all the cubes after the first one, so getting to play 4 cube swiss drafts (which is lots and lots of individual games!) for the amount of money I could use to watch a movie seems like a fine deal for me. Magic is a hobby and I willingly pay for the thing I love doing.

    Drone, calculate the amount of money you will spend on 8-4 queues and after that calculate the amount you would have spent if all queues would have the same payout and entry condition as cube. Guess what? for about 80% of us, the latter is equally as cheap or even cheaper than the latter.

    Marshal, awesome draft, man. always a pleasure to watch these :)

  26. Isn’t savannah better than a forest in your deck? I mean it can get wasted but it also makes your farseek better.
    As always, I really like your videos!

  27. Saying that MTGO doesn’t want new players in Cube is kind of obvious. I used to play real-life Magic way back in the day (original Ice Age was the last set I bought). Then I played online with the first iteration of Magic (the stand-alone computer game and the online component to that) and then played online with MTGO back in the day when it was a free beta with Leaping Lizards – dropped it as soon as they changed over to the pay method.

    Now I am back after so many years, and Cube is way overwhelming to me. I hardly have enough time to read all the cards for each draft pick. And, yes, playing against some of the archetypes can be very boring as you don’t get to do much on your side.

    But where else would you see this type of card interaction for only $8? And then if you play it a lot, it gets cheaper.

  28. Rolling Earthquake is JUST EARTHQUAKE??? Honestly, you drafted so poorly and got hooked up with so much stuff anyway. You need to learn what cards do before you cube and record yourself.