Standard Spike: UW Weapon Delver in Standard

Posted on March 12, 2012 by _ShipItHolla

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  3. @Chris: This type of comment really adds value…. why not add a few lines that explains why you feel the list is not good and another few lines offering good alternatives instead? Any cards you would replace? Do you think the archetype of the deck is not tier 1? Suggestions for main and/or sideboard? Insight into the current MTGO metagame and your preferred way to combat it?
    So many ways to provide useful information for the other readers and _ShipIt. Enlighten us :-)

  4. this deck seems fine, until someone plays against it they probably dont know that this deck can just run you over and leave you wondering what just happened.

    matter of fast i lost to a deck just like this yesterday in a daily it was the only deck i lost to.

    im not sure if its sitting at tier 1 with some adjustments i think it can get there.

  5. Angelic’s dodge ground chumpers. you might try sword of feast and famine
    dismembers dont seem good against anything in zombies but negator.
    zombies are so popular online a 4th purge is indicated.

  7. I would suggest 4 vapor snags, I believe it is key in your snapcasters success since most of your match up’s are tempo based. I say this only because it stop the early damage you will take that is very important for you to stop. Try faiths shield in the board it ha helped me a lot and most people don’t see it coming. I don’t like destiny or jace in this deck other sb options would be more revoke or Devine offering. Like the vids keep them coming.

  8. I think you are thinking of vapor snag in context to what decks its “good against or bad against” instead of it being part of your geist of saint traft combo. Your plan against almost every non-aggressive deck in the format is to just 20 them asap with disruption backup, and making sure your geist resolves and lives is essential. Vapor snag is the absolute best card for this because not only does it clear 1 blocker, it denies double blocks AND prevents tribute to hunger, geths verdict, phantasmal image, phyrexian metamorph and sweeper type stuff on your only real threat. Also its the best card to shave a turn off of a clock in the format along with snapcaster mage. Even against some of the more tempo oriented decks you really just want to geist them out. Making sure he stays in play is literally your plan A against decks…Plan B being swords.

    Why else would people be playing mutagenic growth in their decks, and things of that nature? To go along with geist. Think of it as Umejawa’s jitte back in Kamigawa block days, but instead of just beating aggro it just beats not-aggro. It lives and turns sideways and lives again. You win every single time.

  9. Agree with the previous comment, Vapor Snag it is a key part of this deck. Its fuels Delver, Snapcaster, pings them for one (a lot of games i won for one point and a lot of games that i lose with them at one!), and it is flexible: sometimes it is a time walk, other times it is a removal spell.

    For instance, in your match against humans, when your opponent cast hero, you could’ve allowed it, vapor snag it end of his turn, and mana leak it next turn (or any other spell), or even you could snapcast vapor snag it again, all this while keeping bashing for 6 with delvers for 2 turns. With the 2 points of life loss from the snags, you win in two turns with all the leaks for back up!

    Snag also shines against black zenith, doj, o ring, image, wolf run (but not huntmaster)

    However i agree with playing 3 snags, 2 md and 1 sb, while playing 2 dismember mb, which is real removal, not tempo swing, and boarding the third snag against aggro decks like humans

    Tkx for the videos, watching for some time now, keep up the good work =)

  10. You brought in extraction in match 4 with the intention of removing messenger or gravecrawler. Sounds good. But you didn’t bring it in against your first zombies opponent. Was that intentional or just an oversight?

  11. I love how suprised you were when your opponent didn’t attack into your 2/2 hexproof with his 1/1 haha :P
    Also WP overall

  12. Phantasmal image should always be brought in vs undying creatures. It is a boss vs zombies. In my experience you really dont want dismember vs aggro decks with burn, as it hurts too much and can freqeuntly be a dead draw, I would usuually rather have vapor snag.

  13. I recall hearing Ship mention that he had little experience with the deck in one of the first videos.
    This is a late comment, but to add to the Vapor Snag discussion:

    For the final match against Zombies, four snags might be too many, but two is too little. My reasoning is that basically every Zombie deck is going to represent a tight race. The key to winning is by riding tempo and incremental damage. Vapor Snags can contribute to a quarter of the opponent’s life total. At any rate, Zombies feels like a bad match even though I generally win it because nearly all of my wins against it are the tight variety where they’re lethal turn is one behind yours. It’s a strange match.

  14. I just don’t understand why you were boarding out the geists and not the stalkers. Geists is sooooo much better.